[CODATA-international] information request for a Friday

Marie-Claude Zikra Marie-Claude.Zikra at univ-paris1.fr
Sat Mar 13 09:18:46 EST 2021


Hi.

Could you please help me to unsubscribe from your mailing list.

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MC ZIKRA

Université paris 1

RICE Robin <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk> a écrit :

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>    That is a great point Fraser, about reconciling FAIR with CARE  
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>    Researchers do need to think through how their data will be  
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> of a data management plan. They then need to work through whether  
> they need consent to share/deposit the data, or if they are being  
> transparent with the research subjects about what will become of the  
> data after the project. This may not be strictly legally necessary  
> if anonymising the data but it is probably ethical. Subjects usually  
> also have the right to have their data removed from the study at any  
> point, though in this story they probably didn’t realise it.
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>    Anyway I wanted to let you know there is an excellent  
> professional development video from IASSIST on Indigenous data, now  
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>    Kayla Lar-Son, Indigenous Services and Programs Librarian at the  
> University of British Columbia, presents “Data as Relation:  
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>      FROM: Fraser Taylor <FraserTaylor at Cunet.Carleton.Ca>
> SENT: 12 March 2021 16:16
> TO: Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>; Greenberg,Jane  
> <jg3243 at drexel.edu>; RICE Robin <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk>;  
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> SUBJECT: Re: [CODATA-international] information request for a Friday
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>        Good Morning Daureen,
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>        Thank you for these personal observations. Education is a  
> necessary but not sufficient response. Once material has been  
> rendered in digital form and is out there on the net it is very  
> difficult to control access and use . Your story is unfortunately  
> all too common. Open access using FAIR has its drawbacks!
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>      FROM: Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>
> SENT: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:07:24 AM
> TO: Fraser Taylor <FraserTaylor at Cunet.Carleton.Ca>; Greenberg,Jane  
> <jg3243 at drexel.edu>; RICE Robin <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk>;  
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>        Yes, and you can throw in personal data from any research  
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>        I actually first heard about this issue one year ago this  
> week at the RDAP 2020 Summit. The data folks heard a personal story  
> from a Pueblo woman about how her family story ended up online on a  
> website of a college in the  eastern US. She described how violated  
> her family felt since they had never provided permissions for  
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>        For the record, at this year’s RDAP Summit we learned that  
> those in clinical research are learning to redo their consent forms  
> to include, if appropriate, the sharing of the de-identified data  
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>          FROM: Fraser Taylor [mailto:FraserTaylor at Cunet.Carleton.Ca]
> SENT: Friday, March 12, 2021 8:51 AM
> TO: Greenberg,Jane <jg3243 at drexel.edu>; RICE Robin  
> <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk>; Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>;  
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>           Good Afternoon All,
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>           I have been following this useful exchange. I work  
> extensively with Indigenous communities and organisations in Canada  
> and one of the challenges we face is the apparent contradictions  
> between the open access and FAIR principles and the CARE principles  
>  developed to protect Indigenous Knowledge . These are two equally  
> important set of principles. Indigenous knowledge has much to offer  
> on key issues such as climate change and global warming in Canada’s  
> Arctic for example but how can this be shared in an open access  
> environment without local people losing control of their information  
> ? The record of misuse ,often to the detriment of local people, is  
> extensive. It is possible to find ways to help resolve this  
> situation but implementing these is challenging. Indigenous  
> knowledge, especially that of the Inuit, is in my view, a parallel  
> knowledge system and recognizing this makes co-production of  
> knowledge one way ahead. Can this be done while avoiding  
> exploitation and respecting the values and cultures of the peoples  
> concerned? Can we be fair in implementing FAIR?
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> SENT: Friday, March 12, 2021 10:22:55 AM
> TO: RICE Robin <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk>; Daureen Nesdill  
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>           Dear Robin, Geoffrey, Leighton, Daureen,
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>            FROM: CODATA-international  
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> Robin <R.Rice at ed.ac.uk>
> DATE: Friday, March 12, 2021 at 8:29 AM
> TO: Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>,  
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>            Rest assured the US is not alone in policy-making to  
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> governments are not the only players, they are influenced by the  
> wider OA international movement made up of a number of players (for  
> example SPARC  and SPARC Europe). I am not a publications expert but  
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> to a very high level of OA compliance by UK researchers over the  
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>              FROM: CODATA-international  
> <codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org> ON BEHALF OF BOULTON  
> Geoffrey
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> TO: Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>
> CC: codata-international at lists.codata.org
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> 10.24948/2021.01
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>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 22:22, Daureen Nesdill <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu> wrote:
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>>                    FROM: Christiansen, Leighton (OST)  
>> [mailto:Leighton.christiansen at dot.gov>> SENT: Saturday, March 6, 2021 7:10 AM
>> TO: Daureen Nesdill  
>> <daureen.nesdill at utah.edu>; codata-international at lists.codata.org
>> SUBJECT: RE: information request for a Friday
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>> [mailto:codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org] ON BEHALF  
>> OF Daureen Nesdill
>> SENT: Friday, March 5, 2021 5:11 PM
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>>                   I’m aware that in the U.S. that if your research  
>> is funded by a federal agency you are required to share your  
>> publication (data, code also, but I’m interested in publications).  
>> Some foundations have also implemented this requirement.  
>> Universities and scholarly societies have yet to weigh in as far as  
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