[CODATA-international] some questions Re: The Vienna Declaration on the European Open Science Cloud

Mon Nov 26 16:57:51 EST 2018

Such change is incremental, not revolutionary, and we should be thankful
that it is going in the right direction. There are many other things that
are not.

Cheers,
Paul

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:21 PM Parsons, Mark <parsom3 at rpi.edu> wrote:

> Hi Falk,
>
> As you know, I too have been involved in these sort of things for a long
> time and have suffered the same disappointments. And yes this declaration
> has both the old and new buzz words and only so much meaning. And yes this
> is just Europe right now. And yes governments and people continue to do bad
> things. The world is messy and riddled with evil.
>
> BUT, as another outsider, I have sensed a real sea change in European
> science funding. I genuinely believe they are the current global leaders in
> pushing for ethical openness. Witness Plan S and the impact of the GDPR.
>
> The politics and funding are complex and fraught, and I worry about
> European over-regulation, but I know both the politicians and the
> practitioners behind EOSC. They are committed and sensible. I think it
> likely that this will have significant impact. The world will continue to
> be messy, but there will be a step forward in the advancement of human
> knowledge and sharing.
>
> cheers,
>
> -m.
>
>
> Mark A. Parsons
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> Senior Research Scientist
> Tetherless World Constellation
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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>
>
>
> On 26 Nov 2018, at 11:46, Falk Huettmann <fhuettmann at alaska.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> thanks,
> great to see data open and in the public. I always like to see friendly
> intents.
> It's important to be done, globally, and with the sciences and all people
> in mind for sure.
>
> Still, over the decades we have seen many of such eloquent announcements
> like below, such styles.
> But then just see where things stand: what for and for whom, to what
> outcome ?
>
> It's like a ~one page statement -signed by ministries etc - to fix the
> world via some EU action.
>
> I mean, how naive is that ?
>
> One must be in shock if that is really to be serious. The world is bigger
> than the EU and its 'global leadership'. I am not seeing it, really.
>
> For reality, I propose just see for EU data on raptor (bird) poaching,
> Malta issues, fisheries, forest inventories,
> bird banding, cancer clusters, habitat loss, socio-economic or air quality
> and contamination with statistical confidence and geo-referenced?
> Many other examples exist, and think of Brexit, Switzerland or Norway (or
> Russia, China, Japan and Africa, + Brazil).
> Where are those data, and in a good form, and how used and presented in
> 'the cloud' then, shared with the world, for a good world, with ISO
> compliant metadata ?
>
> Happy to learn otherwise, but from experienmce I see many problems in that
> text.
> It looks to me rather half-baked and not well thought out at all 'lacking
> teeth'.
>
> For examples on similar (but bigger) statements see with Budapest Open
> Access, Berlin Declaration, GBIF, Kazbergi on Mountain Data and so on,
> publishers included.
> https://cos.io/blog/landscape-open-data-policies/
> And then see how those have progressed, or not. The cloud is just a add-on
> to those things; same style.
> Again, I am happy to see things doing very well, but the track record
> leaves me very sad already.
> We can only hope for the best then, in my view.
>
> Very best
>    Falk Huettmann PhD, Professor
>     Uni of Alaska Fairbanks
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:01 AM anup kumar das <anupdas2072 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is the text:
>>
>> *The Vienna Declaration on the European Open Science Cloud*
>> Vienna, 23 November 2018
>>
>> We, Ministers, delegates and other participants attending the launch
>> event of the European Open Science Cloud (EOSC):
>> 1. Recall the challenges of data driven research in pursuing excellent
>> science as stated in the “EOSC Declaration” signed in Brussels on 10 July
>> 2017.
>> 2. Reaffirm the potential of the European Open Science Cloud to
>> transform the research landscape in Europe. Confirm that the vision of the
>> European Open Science Cloud is that of a research data commons, inclusive
>> of all disciplines and Member States, sustainable in the long-term.
>> 3. Recognise that the implementation of the European Open Science Cloud
>> is a process, not a project, by its nature iterative and based on constant
>> learning and mutual alignment. Highlight the need for continuous dialogue
>> to build trust and consensus among scientists, researchers, funders, users
>> and service providers.
>> 4. Highlight that Europe is well placed to take a global leadership
>> position in the development and application of cloud services for Science.
>> Reaffirm that the European Open Science Cloud will be both European and
>> open to the world, reaching out over time to relevant global research
>> partners.
>> 5. Recall that the Council - in its conclusions of 29 May 2018 -
>> welcomed the implementation roadmap and the federated model for the
>> European Open Science Cloud. It invited the Commission and all Member
>> States to set up a common governance framework that ensures participation
>> of stakeholders from the research community based on principles of
>> transparency, openness and inclusiveness and an effective involvement of
>> all Member States.
>> 6. Note that the 2018 EOSC Summit (held on 11 June 2018) called for
>> acceleration towards making the European Open Science Cloud a reality,
>> hinting at the need to further strengthen the ongoing dialogue across
>> institutions and with stakeholders, for a new governance framework to be
>> launched in Vienna, on 23 November 2018.
>>
>> *We therefore:*
>> 7. Resolve to harness the many ongoing and planned activities at EU and
>> Member States level to cooperate in establishing an inclusive partnership
>> with a view to developing the European Open Science Cloud as a federated
>> infrastructure that can enhance value-based, open, trusted, user-centric
>> digital services across borders within the Digital Single Market (DSM).
>> 8. Invite all Member States, as well as public and private stakeholders
>> in Europe, to support actively this joint effort and the new European Open
>> Science Cloud governance structure for a successful implementation of the
>> initiative.
>> 9. Call for the European Open Science Cloud to provide all researchers
>> in Europe with seamless access to an open-by-default, efficient and
>> cross-disciplinary environment for storing, accessing, reusing and
>> processing research data supported by FAIR data principles.
>> 10. Commit to support service provision for the European Open Science
>> Cloud by helping connecting relevant national and disciplinary nodes to the
>> pan-European level.
>> 11. Reaffirm the potential of the European Open Science Cloud to enable
>> first-class data-driven science and to stimulate new business models
>> benefiting our society and the economy. Recognise that such services will
>> create opportunities for both public and private sectors, notably by
>> intensifying reuse of public sector information while preserving data
>> integrity, and ensuring access, transparency within and across borders.
>>
>> *We therefore declare* to work together towards realising the potential
>> of the European Open Science Cloud for the benefit of citizens, society and
>> the economy.
>>
>> [The Vienna EOSC Declaration was developed by Paolo Budroni, University
>> of Vienna, and Stefan Hanslik, Austrian Federal Ministry for Education,
>> Science and Research in close cooperation with the European Commission.]
>>
>> *Further Details
>> <https://eosc-launch.eu/fileadmin/user_upload/k_eosc_launch/EOSC_Vienna_Declaration_2018.pdf>*
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Dr. Anup Kumar Das
>> Centre for Studies in Science Policy
>> School of Social Sciences
>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
>> New Delhi - 110067, India
>> ORCID: http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9490-7938
>> Web: www.anupkumardas.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @AannuuppK | @IndiaSTS
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:09 PM DE LUCA Massimo (EEAS-PRETORIA) <
>> Massimo.DE-LUCA at eeas.europa.eu> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Anand ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the spreading the good news!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully, we'll hear more at the Science Forum in Pretoria next month
>>> where both JRC and RTD will attend and engage also on open science
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* CODATA-international [mailto:
>>> codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org] *On Behalf Of *Suchith
>>> Anand
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2018 11:10 AM
>>> *To:* CODATA International
>>> *Subject:* [CODATA-international] The Vienna Declaration on the
>>> European Open Science Cloud
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Following a major effort by the European Commission, the Member States
>>> and the scientific community, the European Open Science Cloud (EOSC)
>>> <https://www.eosc-portal.eu/> was launched to provide a safe
>>> environment for researches to store, analyse and re-use data for research,
>>> innovation and educational purposes. The Commission presented the
>>> governance structure and the portal to EU science ministers and future
>>> users at an Austrian EU Presidency conference
>>> <https://eosc-launch.eu/home/> in Vienna on  23rd Nov 2018 .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Vienna Declaration on the European Open Science Cloud is at
>>> https://eosc-launch.eu/declaration/
>>>
>>> Details at https://www.eosc-portal.eu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My greetings to all colleagues who worked to make this possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
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>>> Suchith
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