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<p class="MsoNormal">In the context of the ‘open’ discussion, wouldn’t the important issue be to figure out the ‘practical differences’ between open research and open science (if there are any)?
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is a EU project resource that has ‘open reproducible research’ as one part of open science (and I wonder about the implications of ‘reproducible’ in this context):
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have the feeling that one could argue that ‘open research’ enforces the openness of data, methods, … more than ‘open science’ that would ‘just’ ask for the openness of the research results. To me that would be misleading, I would favor
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<p class="MsoNormal">But perhaps the discussion comes really from the interpretation / understanding that ‘science’ is not necessarily including humanities and social sciences (and arts in the English language context…)? (that seems to be the gist of this Wikipedia
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<p class="MsoNormal">If that’s the case, shouldn’t we better ensure that the meaning / definition of science becomes (again) inclusive, and keep the distinction of ‘research’ as a process contributing to science, thus have ‘open research’ as an element of ‘open
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe the ISC position paper on "Science as a Global Public Good” (attached) might help. “Research as a Global Public Good” would not work. Why, because research is an activity, science is an outcome.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just to break in, research and science are not synonymous. Science is s process that requires openness to scrutiny, but I can carryout research for my own purposes that is never made accessible for scrutiny. You can argue that “open research
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's true that the word science in English, if used alone, tends to be used to refer primarily to natural science. Increasingly people use the word more broadly, in the sense of the German Wissenschaft. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Daureen,<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the links!<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Quick question – why would you prefer the use of ‘open research’ rather than ‘open science’? <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From all I could find, they should be ‘interchangeable’ (i.e. synonymous (really?)) ?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(I find the lack of clarity / authoritative definitions of the terms used in these discussions very frustrating – it allows too many easy escapes for my taste – so anything towards more strict definitions would be most appreciated.)<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any comments!<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>CODATA-international <<a href="mailto:codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org"><span style="color:purple">codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org</span></a>><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 7. Januar 2022 19:29<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk"><span style="color:purple">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>; CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org"><span style="color:purple">codata-international@lists.codata.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That is not all NASA is doing.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">They are organizing the 2023 Year of Open Science</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F4E79">Just wish they would say open research instead of open science<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>CODATA-international <<a href="mailto:codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org"><span style="color:purple">codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org</span></a>><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>[CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Colleagues,</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This NASA study and workshops might be of interest. This is an opportunity to shape the next generation of Earth Observing missions that are currently in development.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Details at<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><a href="https://earthdata.nasa.gov/esds/open-science/oss-for-eso-workshops"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:purple">https://earthdata.nasa.gov/esds/open-science/oss-for-eso-workshops</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would like to thank NASA colleagues for their contributions for open geospatial science.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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