<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I hesitate to get into this discussion again… though I do thank very much those people who hare contributed to the exchange.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I understand the inclusivity argument that Jonathan raises, and empirically he is right. There are a lot of colleagues in the humanities that feel excluded by the term Open Science being used as opposed to Open Research / Scholarship.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nevertheless, I find that very feeling of exclusion itself somewhat frustrating. Full disclosure, my academic background is in history (and mostly history of political thought) so I come to this discussion from the perspective of what I think of as of the empirical humanities or a human science. I think the point made by Geoffrey about rigour and openness to scrutiny is valid and the terms research and scholarship don’t cut it in that respect. In my view, we don’t have to agree with all of Collingwood’s arguments about rethinking = reproducing, for example, to take the view that history is a science: it is rigorous, it is profoundly and consistently based on evidence, the conclusions can be scrutinised etc. I prefer to set the bar high for the social sciences and empirical humanities and to be inclusive in the definition of science that we use.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From a historical linguistic point of view, we should be aware of the various ‘moves’ (in the Skinnerian sense) to which the term science has been subject in the English language (notably in the late 18th century and the 20th century - e.g. C.P. Snow, Two Cultures) and therefore suitably sceptical about accepting the limitations in meaning they imply.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From a philosophic and epistemological point of view, the very real question is how much value we accord to definition of science as concerns with discerning laws and its predictive capacities. These are very high bars to set (epistemologically) and are not universally accepted as core to the definition of science - though of course there are and have been thinkers that have insisted on them. Personally, I think it is more coherent <i class="">not</i> to include these as definitions of science, which in turn allows the rigorous and scrutinisable work of social scientists and the empirical humanities to be included in our definition of science.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">None of these remarks will end this discussion but I hope they are worth considering…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And a Happy New Year to you all!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">S.</div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 10 Jan 2022, at 14:19, Jonathan Petters <<a href="mailto:jpetters@vt.edu" class="">jpetters@vt.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">For me the use of the terms 'Open science' or 'Open research' (or 'Open scholarship') depends on the audience and how inclusive we're trying to be.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The term 'Open science' is reasonably meaningful for STEM fields, but isn't really inclusive of the many arts and humanities folks at academic institutions that may be interested in open practices. 'Open research'/'Open scholarship' is a more inclusive term I think.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Jon<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><font size="2" face="arial" class="">Jonathan Petters Ph.D.<br class="">Assistant Director, Data Management & Curation Services<br class=""></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><font size="2" face="arial" class="">Data Services, University Libraries<br class="">Virginia Tech<br class="">(540) 232-8682<br class=""><a href="https://lib.vt.edu/research-teaching/data-services.html" target="_blank" class="">https://lib.vt.edu/research-teaching/data-services.html</a><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><font size="2" face="arial" class="">ORCID: 0000-0002-0853-5814<br class=""></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><font size="2" face="arial" class="">he/his/him</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 6:51 AM Haslinger Florian <<a href="mailto:florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch" class="">florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">That Unesco report mentions ‘open research’ only as ‘open reseach data’ - which seems to be different than the understanding of ‘open research’ vs ‘open science’.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">(and very pragmatically – in that context I care less about the definition of ‘science’ than about the definition / implication of ‘open’ …)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Montag, 10. Januar 2022 12:36<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Haslinger Florian <<a href="mailto:florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch" target="_blank" class="">florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch</a>>; BOULTON Geoffrey <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" target="_blank" class="">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" target="_blank" class="">codata-international@lists.codata.org</a>>; Paul BERKMAN <<a href="mailto:Paul.BERKMAN@unitar.org" target="_blank" class="">Paul.BERKMAN@unitar.org</a>>; Berkman, Paul Arthur <<a href="mailto:pberkman@law.harvard.edu" target="_blank" class="">pberkman@law.harvard.edu</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> RE: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<br class="">
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">With respect for the various perspectives, this discussion seems to forget the significant efforts of the international scientific community (natural sciences, social sciences and Indigenous knowledge) that contributed to the
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<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Haslinger Florian<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Monday, January 10, 2022 12:24 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> BOULTON Geoffrey <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" target="_blank" class="">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" target="_blank" class="">codata-international@lists.codata.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is a EU project resource that has ‘open reproducible research’ as one part of open science (and I wonder about the implications of ‘reproducible’ in this context):
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<u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have the feeling that one could argue that ‘open research’ enforces the openness of data, methods, … more than ‘open science’ that would ‘just’ ask for the openness of the research results. To me that would be misleading, I would favor
the interpretation that open science requires open research as one of its ingredients.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">But perhaps the discussion comes really from the interpretation / understanding that ‘science’ is not necessarily including humanities and social sciences (and arts in the English language context…)? (that seems to be the gist of this Wikipedia
article <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Open-5Fscience&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=LRwdkqi2kjt54-tgg9BJgg0kq77jArlzUmYTJl3l3Nk&e=" target="_blank" class="">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_science</a> )<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If that’s the case, shouldn’t we better ensure that the meaning / definition of science becomes (again) inclusive, and keep the distinction of ‘research’ as a process contributing to science, thus have ‘open research’ as an element of ‘open
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Maybe the ISC position paper on "Science as a Global Public Good” (attached) might help. “Research as a Global Public Good” would not work. Why, because research is an activity, science is an outcome.
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Just to break in, research and science are not synonymous. Science is s process that requires openness to scrutiny, but I can carryout research for my own purposes that is never made accessible for scrutiny. You can argue that “open research
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">It's true that the word science in English, if used alone, tends to be used to refer primarily to natural science. Increasingly people use the word more broadly, in the sense of the German Wissenschaft. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the links!<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Quick question – why would you prefer the use of ‘open research’ rather than ‘open science’? <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">From all I could find, they should be ‘interchangeable’ (i.e. synonymous (really?)) ?<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">(I find the lack of clarity / authoritative definitions of the terms used in these discussions very frustrating – it allows too many easy escapes for my taste – so anything towards more strict definitions would be most appreciated.)<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any comments!<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b><span class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>CODATA-international <<a href="mailto:codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:purple" class="">codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org</span></a>><span class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 7. Januar 2022 19:29<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:purple" class="">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>; CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:purple" class="">codata-international@lists.codata.org</span></a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">They are organizing the 2023 Year of Open Science</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(31,78,121)" class="">Just wish they would say open research instead of open science<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>[CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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Just to break in, research and science are not synonymous. Science is s process that requires openness to scrutiny, but I can carryout research for my own purposes that is never made accessible for scrutiny. You can argue that “open research = science”, but
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From all I could find, they should be ‘interchangeable’ (i.e. synonymous (really?)) ?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(I find the lack of clarity / authoritative definitions of the terms used in these discussions very frustrating – it allows too many easy escapes for my taste – so anything towards more
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">That is not all NASA is doing.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">They are organizing the 2023 Year of Open Science<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<p style="font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">This NASA study and workshops might be of interest. This is an opportunity to shape the next generation of Earth Observing
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