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Just a reminder that Open Science is not new. It started seriously in the late 17th century with the first published scientific journals of the modern era. They enabled ideas to circulate rapidly between distant readers, which catalysed a creative chain reaction
 that triggered an explosion of knowledge. The modern open science movement is a broadening of the horizons of openness rather than its discovery. In part it is about relations between scientists and in part with society. 
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<div class="">We should also remember the old adage that "the best is the enemy of the good”. By excessively criticising our failure to achieve perfection, we undermine efforts to create the merely good.<br class="">
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<div class="">Just my two cents to add to the conversation. Openness is contextual. For me, open implies access to resources which otherwise can be closed (e.g. open data); it also refers to a mode of production where participation is less restricted (e.g.
 open source development). Openness neither necessarily leads to inclusiveness nor equity, even though it may be used to invoke such ideals (e.g. open government). The trend in prepending "open" to an existing term so as to create the allure of openness in
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<b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Berkman, Paul Arthur" <<a href="mailto:pberkman@law.harvard.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">pberkman@law.harvard.edu</a>>, "BOULTON Geoffrey" <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"CODATA International" <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">codata-international@lists.codata.org</a>>, "Paul BERKMAN"
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<b class="">Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, January 10, 2022 7:42:22 PM<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<br class="">
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<div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><p class="MsoNormal">That Unesco report mentions ‘open research’ only as ‘open reseach data’  -  which seems to be different than the understanding of ‘open research’ vs ‘open science’.</p>
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Montag, 10. Januar 2022 12:36<br class="">
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<b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" class="">codata-international@lists.codata.org</a>>; Paul BERKMAN <<a href="mailto:Paul.BERKMAN@unitar.org" class="">Paul.BERKMAN@unitar.org</a>>;
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<br class="">
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</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-stretch: normal;"><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">I would like to thank NASA colleagues for their contributions for open geospatial science.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""></span></p>
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