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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gee whiz. I’m in Mountain time so just noticed what I started.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To answer Florian’s question which reflects answers from others:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I tend to use research and not science. We have a College of Science on campus so using research is being inclusive. We already have competition between the medical
side of campus with the rest of campus even though folks in Fine Arts and Social Science have NIH grants – in addition to Science and Engineering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In addition, people are now attempting to use electronic research notebook instead of electronic lab notebook – but still using ELN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> CODATA-international <codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Hodson, ED CODATA<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 10, 2022 7:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CODATA <codata-international@lists.codata.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hesitate to get into this discussion again… though I do thank very much those people who hare contributed to the exchange.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I understand the inclusivity argument that Jonathan raises, and empirically he is right. There are a lot of colleagues in the humanities that feel excluded by the term Open Science being used as opposed to Open Research / Scholarship.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nevertheless, I find that very feeling of exclusion itself somewhat frustrating. Full disclosure, my academic background is in history (and mostly history of political thought) so I come to this discussion from the perspective of what
I think of as of the empirical humanities or a human science. I think the point made by Geoffrey about rigour and openness to scrutiny is valid and the terms research and scholarship don’t cut it in that respect. In my view, we don’t have to agree with all
of Collingwood’s arguments about rethinking = reproducing, for example, to take the view that history is a science: it is rigorous, it is profoundly and consistently based on evidence, the conclusions can be scrutinised etc. I prefer to set the bar high for
the social sciences and empirical humanities and to be inclusive in the definition of science that we use.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From a historical linguistic point of view, we should be aware of the various ‘moves’ (in the Skinnerian sense) to which the term science has been subject in the English language (notably in the late 18th century and the 20th century -
e.g. C.P. Snow, Two Cultures) and therefore suitably sceptical about accepting the limitations in meaning they imply.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From a philosophic and epistemological point of view, the very real question is how much value we accord to definition of science as concerns with discerning laws and its predictive capacities. These are very high bars to set (epistemologically)
and are not universally accepted as core to the definition of science - though of course there are and have been thinkers that have insisted on them. Personally, I think it is more coherent
<i>not</i> to include these as definitions of science, which in turn allows the rigorous and scrutinisable work of social scientists and the empirical humanities to be included in our definition of science.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">None of these remarks will end this discussion but I hope they are worth considering…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And a Happy New Year to you all!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">That Unesco report mentions ‘open research’ only as ‘open reseach data’ - which seems to be different than the understanding of ‘open research’ vs ‘open science’.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(and very pragmatically – in that context I care less about the definition of ‘science’ than about the definition / implication of ‘open’ …)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> Haslinger Florian <<a href="mailto:florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch" target="_blank">florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch</a>>; BOULTON Geoffrey <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" target="_blank">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>><br>
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Paul Arthur <<a href="mailto:pberkman@law.harvard.edu" target="_blank">pberkman@law.harvard.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">With respect for the various perspectives, this discussion seems to forget the significant efforts of the international scientific community (natural sciences, social sciences and
Indigenous knowledge) that contributed to the <i><a href="https://www.unesco.org/en/natural-sciences/open-science" target="_blank">UNESCO Recommendation on Open Science</a></i>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Haslinger Florian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 10, 2022 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BOULTON Geoffrey <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" target="_blank">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" target="_blank">codata-international@lists.codata.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the context of the ‘open’ discussion, wouldn’t the important issue be to figure out the ‘practical differences’ between open research and open science (if there are any)?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">There is a EU project resource that has ‘open reproducible research’ as one part of open science (and I wonder about the implications of ‘reproducible’ in this context):
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have the feeling that one could argue that ‘open research’ enforces the openness of data, methods, … more than ‘open science’ that would ‘just’ ask for the openness of the research
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But perhaps the discussion comes really from the interpretation / understanding that ‘science’ is not necessarily including humanities and social sciences (and arts in the English
language context…)? (that seems to be the gist of this Wikipedia article <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Open-5Fscience&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=LRwdkqi2kjt54-tgg9BJgg0kq77jArlzUmYTJl3l3Nk&e=" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If that’s the case, shouldn’t we better ensure that the meaning / definition of science becomes (again) inclusive, and keep the distinction of ‘research’ as a process contributing
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<b>To:</b> BOULTON Geoffrey <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" target="_blank">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Haslinger Florian <<a href="mailto:florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch" target="_blank">florian.haslinger@sed.ethz.ch</a>>; CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" target="_blank">codata-international@lists.codata.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Maybe the ISC position paper on "Science as a Global Public Good” (attached) might help. “Research as a Global Public Good” would not work. Why, because research is an activity,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 10 Jan 2022, at 10:22, BOULTON Geoffrey <<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" target="_blank">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(I find the lack of clarity / authoritative definitions of the terms used in these discussions very frustrating – it allows too many easy escapes for my taste – so anything towards
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<b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>>; CODATA International <<a href="mailto:codata-international@lists.codata.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">codata-international@lists.codata.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m7526758739585321986xapple-converted-space"> </span>[CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This NASA study and workshops might be of interest. This is an opportunity to shape the next generation of Earth Observing missions that are currently in development.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Colleagues,</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This NASA study and workshops might be of interest. This is an opportunity to shape the next generation of Earth Observing missions that are currently in development.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Details at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><a href="https://earthdata.nasa.gov/esds/open-science/oss-for-eso-workshops"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:purple">https://earthdata.nasa.gov/esds/open-science/oss-for-eso-workshops</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would like to thank NASA colleagues for their contributions for open geospatial science.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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