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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear Simon,<br>
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thank you for maintaining a balanced position. Tolerance and
openness does not apply to statements we approve, but when
allowing positions we dislike - within the limits of politeness of
course. I do hope that science community at large remembers its
foundations and continues objecting to any kind of censorship.<br>
<br>
my 2 cents,<br>
Peter<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.08.20 17:04, Simon Hodson, ED
CODATA wrote:<br>
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Dear Geoffrey, all;
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<div class="">In the <a href="https://codata.org/open-science-for-a-global-transformation-codata-coordinated-submission-to-the-unesco-open-science-consultation/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">CODATA-coordinated submission
to the UNESCO Consultation on Open Science,</a> we stated
clearly the view that “Paywall publishing does not serve the
interests of (publicly-funded) science and the profit margins
of the traditional publishers, largely from public funding, are
unacceptable.” In agreement with ISC, we recommended that
“scholarly publishing needs fundamentally reenvisioning such
that it is unambiguously put to the service of science as a
global public good.” These views are also being articulated in
the discussions of the <a href="https://en.unesco.org/science-sustainable-future/open-science/advisory-committee" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">UNESCO Open Science Advisory
Committee, of which I am vice-chair</a>.</div>
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<div class="">Elsevier’s profit margins (34% in 2019) and
negotiating practices led to responses from a number of
countries and universities (see <a href="https://libraries.mit.edu/scholarly/publishing/elsevier-fact-sheet/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">MIT Factsheet</a> and <a href="https://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/uc-publisher-relationships/uc-and-elsevier/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">University of California</a>).
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<div class="">The appearance of Anita’s post on the CODATA
International list elicited a number of expressions of concern,
in the light of which we reminded subscribers to the list that
it is open to third party posts and the appearance of a given
third party post does not imply the endorsement of CODATA
(message reproduced below).</div>
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<div class="">I would be reluctant to apply a ‘no platform’ policy
and do not think that the analogy holds between a discussion
list for data issues (albeit with 3000 subscribers) and the
‘GAFA' social media platforms in the way that Geoffrey suggests.
I would prefer to let subscribers decide whether the initiative
advertised is ‘green-washing’ or ’SDG-washing’ or is something
of interest. In this instance, ’no-platforming’ such posts
feels to me too much like blocking information to an informed
community.</div>
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<div class="">I would be interested to hear views from other
subscribers on this matter in general and specifically whether
you would prefer that the CODATA Secretariat should filter more
actively posts that are sent to the CODATA International list by
third party organisations?</div>
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<div class="">With very best wishes,</div>
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<div class="">Simon.</div>
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<div class="">On 22 Aug 2020, at 11:05, BOULTON Geoffrey
<<a href="mailto:Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">Geoff.Boulton@ed.ac.uk</a>>
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We, as members of the international science community,
should be wary of supporting an initiative led by a
company that has effectively privatised the results of
much publicly-funded science and inhabited access to
it by scientists and citizens. That this should happen
in things as profoundly important as the SDGs is
doubly worrying. CODATA should think carefully before
acting as the technology companies do, by providing a
platform for material for which they claim no
responsibility.
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<div class="">Imagine how the novel capabilities
offered by the digital revolution could have been
harnessed to disseminate science more efficiently
and effectively to the global good, rather than to
the benefit of the commercial publishers private
investors. A priority for science is to rescue this
potential and to embed it in the hands of
scientists.</div>
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<div class=""> Geoffrey Boulton</div>
<div class="">Past-President of CODATA<br class="">
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<div class="">On 21 Aug 2020, at 10:46, Simon
Hodson, ED CODATA <<a href="mailto:simon@codata.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">simon@codata.org</a>>
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after-white-space;">To subscribers to the
CODATA International list, greetings;<br class="">
<br class="">
The message below from Anita Dewaard has caused a number
of people to write to me to express concerns and
request clarification about the relationship of CODATA
to the initiative described.<br class="">
<br class="">
<b class="">I would like to take this opportunity,
therefore, to clarify the nature of the CODATA
International list and remind readers
that the appearance of a third party post on this list
does not necessary imply endorsement by CODATA.<br class="">
</b> <br class="">
The CODATA International list has over 3000 subscribers
from around the world. It serves three functions:<br class="">
<br class="">
1) For CODATA to announce its activities, events,
outputs to that community (e.g. recent announcements
of the <a href="https://codata.org/call-for-sessions-posters-and-lightning-talks-international-fair-convergence-symposium-2020-deadline-20-july-2020/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">FAIR Convergence
Symposium</a>, the <a href="https://codata.org/initiatives/strategic-programme/codata-connect/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">CODATA Connect webinar
series</a>, our <a href="https://codata.org/initiatives/strategic-programme/decadal-programme/ddi-cross-domain-integration-review-webinar-series/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">collaboration with
DDI-CDI</a> and so on).<br class="">
2) For third parties to do the same (a number of
organisations and projects use the list regularly for
this, including DDI, the GEO, geospatial and
AGU communities and so on).<br class="">
3) For discussion threads of particular issues (for
example the discussion that led to the <a href="https://codata.org/open-science-for-a-global-transformation-codata-coordinated-submission-to-the-unesco-open-science-consultation/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">UNESCO submission</a> or
recent discussions of data feudalism).<br class="">
<br class="">
The message from Anita is an instance of function 2.<br class="">
<br class="">
The CODATA International list is moderated. However,
that simply means that someone from the
CODATA Secretariat (generally Asha or myself) checks
the post to filter out spam before allowing it through
the system. This is a light touch process that we use
to eliminate obvious spam and some bad practice (e.g.
kind but unnecessarily repeated messages to thank the
original poster, misdirected requests to be removed from
the list, and some obviously irrelevant posts…). We do
not filter more heavily than that and I would not be in
favour of blocking posts from certain organisations
whatever their reputation among some of our community.<br class="">
<br class="">
We encourage discussion and the sharing of views on this
list. We encourage organisations and projects
other than CODATA to use the list to reach this
community and to publicise their activities where
relevant and of interest. It is important to reiterate,
however, that the appearance of the third party post on
this list does not necessary imply endorsement by
CODATA.<br class="">
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With very best wishes,<br class="">
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Simon.<br class="">
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Five years
ago, the UN
General
Assembly set
forth 17
sustainable
development
goals (SDGs)
designed to
pave the path
to a more
sustainable
future. The
goals are
measured
against
various
targets and
indicators to
be achieved by
2030. To make
the best
decision on
which research
to fund,
program
evaluators
must have a
clear view of
the landscape
of research
supporting the
SDGs. This
understanding
can reveal
gaps requiring
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To identify
the relevant
research for
each SDG, the
RELX Corporate
Responsibility
program and
several
Elsevier Data
Scientists
have developed
a
crowdsourcing
platform to
facilitate
matching
research
publications
to the
relevant SDGs.
The purpose of
this work is
to create an
open knowledge
base to help
identify which
research
supports which
SDG. The
aggregated
crowdsourced
set of article
identifiers
matched to
SDG’s will be
made available
through
Elsevier’s
ICSR Lab, to
support the
scholarly
community.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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We hereby
invite all
community
members to
support this
effort, by
doing the
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Access the SDG
matching tool
on the RELX
SDG Resource
Centre:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://sdgresources.relx.com/match-research-to-sdgs" style="color:
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Select a paper
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or upload a
paper you
think is
related to one
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of article
identifiers
related to
SDG’s will be
made available
for research
purposes
through the
ICSR. You can
apply for
access to ICSR
Lab:<a href="https://www.elsevier.com/icsr/icsrlab" style="color:
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the RELX SDG
Resource
Center, see:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.elsevier.com/connect/7-ways-you-can-use-our-sdg-resource-centre" style="color:
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information on
the RELX SDG
efforts,
please contact
Bamini
Jayabalasingham,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:b.jayabalasingham@elsevier.com" style="color:
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