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<p class="MsoNormal">This has been a good discussion. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Beth<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">: Beth A. Plale, PhD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">: National Science Foundation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">CODATA-international <codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org> on behalf of Mercury Fox <ceds@email.arizona.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 2:06 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Parsons, Mark" <parsom3@rpi.edu><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Falk Huettmann <fhuettmann@alaska.edu>, CODATA International <codata-international@lists.codata.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] - Re: [CODATA-international] October 2019: Publications in the Data Science Journal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Mark--that's a great point. That program's open data policy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">is stated in the DCL<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(<a href="https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2016/nsf16055/nsf16055.jsp">https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2016/nsf16055/nsf16055.jsp</a>), which also<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">states that the policy is a requirement of international treaty, which<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">probably provides some context for the political will behind the<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">policy in this case. My point is that this kind of clear policy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">directive shouldn't be a one-off.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And since I'm on a soap box about it, I also don't think it's<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">acceptable for NSF & c. to expect the scientific community to simply<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">shift norms and practices in this regard, when the federal funding<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">agencies are unwilling to change the institutional conditions that<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">drive those norms.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And another thing... I also think it's inappropriate for them to pass<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">their oversight and quality control duties to the publishing industry,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">which is basically a roadmap for corruption. I'm not pointing fingers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">at any specific publisher or agency; but publishers should be partners<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">in the research ecosystem, not gatekeepers who determine what gets in<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">and what stays out of the sphere of public knowledge.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OK, that's all the rant I have left in me for today. Thanks everybody<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">and have a great weekend!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Mercury<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/1/19, Parsons, Mark <<a href="mailto:parsom3@rpi.edu">parsom3@rpi.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Nov 2019, at 10:04, Mercury Fox<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">they could change the norm overnight by simply tying the policy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">to the award and requiring open data as a deliverable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the record, the NSF Arctic Program does just that, and they follow up<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">and do QC, AND they fund an archive to make it possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Merc Fox<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Director, CODATA-UA Center of Excellence in Data for Society<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">University of Arizona<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
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