<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi there, Mark et al.,<div> </div><div>100% no!</div><div><br></div><div>So for the Arctic records then, U.S.,</div><div><br></div><div>where are -ONLINE OPEN ACCESS - the ARCTIC U.S. polar bear GPS and telemetry tracking data, same for arctic fox,</div><div>and where are the bowhead whale data, killer whale data, all the seal data, and the survey and trawling</div><div>data by U.S. vessels, with NOAA/NMFS directly involved and during IPY?</div><div>People want to see and use them; that includes students</div><div><br></div><div>And where are the ARCTIC USDA data on Avian Influenza, and the FIA Forest plot</div><div>data for Alaska, all with GPS and geo-referencing and metadata?</div><div><br></div><div>Where are the Arctic Bird Banding data, Golden Eagles included, Open Access online ?</div><div>Bering Sea salmon and seabird survey data; 30 years of records there; where are they and who can use them,</div><div>apart of a few agencies and their contractors ?</div><div><br></div><div>Please provide exact details then for people to use those data.</div><div><br>Again, Mark, that's FOR THE ARCTIC, U.S., with federal as well NSF and NIH involvement,</div><div>including permits of land-use, animal care and vets approval.</div><div><br></div><div>And the devil here often sits in the detail instead and data are not really useable (even when a URL exists),</div><div>that is, meaningful GPS coordinates and taxonomy, and usable data formats, nor somebody available to talk to.</div><div>NetCDF is 100% NOT IT, that is for many of the NOAA and NMFS climate data, as an example.</div><div>IPCC are the others (ARCTIC) and so are the data related to Prudhoe Bay, or Barrow, Arctic Drilling,</div><div>and the Bering Sea, all part of the ARCTIC U.S. you refer to.</div><div><br></div><div>Here a good one, as one example of many for you to solve:</div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/RachaelOrben/status/1115653598929616896">https://twitter.com/RachaelOrben/status/1115653598929616896</a> <br></div><div>How to get and use those data, with metadata, why not in GBIF, OBIS, hardly Movebank for public download, e.g. in R ?</div><div><br></div><div>Please provide details on those to us please Mark, all as you stated and worked on for years, Arctic + IPY and beyond all with your direct involvement .<br>What's the track record here ?.</div><div><br></div><div>In 'the U.S. Arctic' there are now also Japanese, Koreans, Indians and Chinese working, apart of Russia as the main player, for over 50 years.</div><div>WHERE ARE THESE DATA, and why not pushed more, mandatory (as we all agree on) ?</div><div><br></div><div>So instead of making such bold and well-sounding claims, I propose Mark, you can first ask people who actually know and work with, and use and need such data</div><div>for decades for a simple reality check and advise, and to actually progress.</div><div>We have enough empty promises indeed. I see them almost daily but I ask for data open access online instead.</div><div><br></div><div>Re. journal data submissions received: does that not speak volumes by itself, e.g. objectives of such a science and rewards, or who really cares ?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again; kindly from 'the Arctic'</div><div> Falk Huettmann PhD, Professor</div><div> Uni of Alaska Fairbanks</div><div><br></div><div>PS Instead of claimed progress on Open Access, I propose we can have a publication and journal where the failures of NOT Open Access data sharing are outlined and discussed.</div><div>It's gigantic and on the rise: Arctic, Antarctic, Asia and Africa etc etc</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:44 AM Parsons, Mark <<a href="mailto:parsom3@rpi.edu" target="_blank">parsom3@rpi.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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