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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> CODATA-international <codata-international-bounces@lists.codata.org> on behalf of Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:53:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> codata-international@lists.codata.org <codata-international@lists.codata.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Digital Feudalism</font>
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<span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">It will be good opportunity to get inputs and ideas from more </span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">RDA
colleagues</span></span><span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> to this discussion. If someone attending RDA Plenary can propose the topic on Digital </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Feudalism </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">at
the unconference session , collate all ideas received back to CODATA community maillist, it will help us to get more inputs/ideas from wider science community. Thanks.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 19 October 2019 15:56<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Digital Feudalism</font>
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<font face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks Mark for </span><span style="font-size:14.666666984558105px">summarising</span><span style="font-size:11pt"> and </span></font><font face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:11pt">bringing
together all key ideas from</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:11pt"> the discussions.
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:11pt">I will share this summary with wider science and data communities and request those interested
to share ideas/inputs to join CODATA maillists and share their inputs, so we are able to collate all information for the International Science Council's initiative.</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Digital Feudalism is going to affect everyone in our planet, so it is important</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">there are policy and frameworks to reduce Digital Feudalism. I think it is important to get opinions from all different perspectives to help us understand more - from scientists perspective, student perspective,
educator perspective,</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> b</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">illionaire vendor owner perspective, government perspective, SME perspective, startups perspective, Parents perspective etc.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I came across two articles</span></p>
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<span style="color:#454545"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><a href="https://www.reatch.ch/de/content/big-data-data-feudalism-danger-democracy" id="LPlnk148483" class="x_OWAAutoLink"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">https://www.reatch.ch/de/content/big-data-data-feudalism-danger-democracy</span></a></span><br>
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<span style="text-decoration:underline"><a href="https://towardsdatascience.com/digital-feudalism-b9858f7f9be5" id="LPlnk8840" class="x_OWAAutoLink"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">https://towardsdatascience.com/digital-feudalism-b9858f7f9be5</span></a></span><br>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">So how can we contribute to develop policy frameworks to help reduce</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Digital Feudalism?</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Sharing ideas helps us to develop collective wisdom to solve complex problems. I am grateful to everyone who contributed their ideas and inputs. </span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 18 October 2019 01:52<br>
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<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word">Wow! Thank you Suchith for inspiring such a wave of thoughtful conversation.
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<div class="">It seems that there are (at least) two major issues being discussed here. The first is the surveillance capitalism, rent seeking from personal information, and platform monopolization encountered in the "digital feudalism” discussed in the original
Mazucatto article that Suchith shared. The second is the issue of “digital colonialism” where the privileged North extracts information from and exploits the marginalized South. </div>
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<div class="">On the first issue, feudalism, I agree with Alberto and Falk, that we may be well served by revisiting Marx (with critique). I would also suggest that feminist theory can provide some insight here. Along those lines, I point you to a recent paper
- <a href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3236409" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk625166">Information Maintenance as a Practice of Care</a> - and the community called <a href="http://themaintaners.org/" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk187224">The
Maintainers</a> who seek to address power imbalance and promote the practice of maintaining and repairing beneficent systems while disrupting nefarious (feudalistic) systems.</div>
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<div class="">On the second issue, colonialism, I agree with Kassim, Fraser, Ross and others that building relationships and trust is key. A resource that can guide some of this has recently been released by the RDA Indigenous Data Sovereignty Group - <a href="https://www.gida-global.org/" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk104659">the
CARE Principles for Indigenous Data Governance.</a> Be FAIR and CARE!</div>
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<div class="">Where the two issues come together could be really troubling. We already see Google and Facebook working to provide “free” internet or cloud services to developing countries. That should worry us all and I think it gets to Suchith’s initial concerns
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<div class="">Geoffrey, I’m pleased ISC is looking to tackle some of these issues. I would be interested in helping. I’m less pleased about the term 'data governance', but I think I understand the intent. I think the first question then needs to be *what* are
we seeking to govern and why. I think Bob makes a really good point about the need to coordinate all the groups and initiatives, but Jean-Claude is right that we need to consider the data as a resource itself (although certainly not in an oligarchic, resource-exploitation
model like OPEC). Falk wisely counsels us to be careful of noble aspirations mistakenly working within malign systems. Personally, I don’t see ’neoliberalism’ and ‘capitalism’ as malign systems per se, but there sure are some malign interpretations and implementations.</div>
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<div class="">Finally, I can’t help but note that many of these issues would make excellent topics for CODATA’s <a href="https://datascience.codata.org/" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk169529">Data Science Journal</a> :-).</div>
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