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<p>This is a very interesting and meaningful turn, Elizabeth. You
bring discussion up from purely data related issues to science and
that is another level of the matter. When we think a talk about
science we particularly deal with ways of scientific communication
(among other aspects) ant that brings us to articles, magazines,
books either hard copies or electronic files. And this brings up
issues related to IP rage -- my term for a social disease called
"Intellectual Property." <br>
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<p>I agree that the core matter in the discussion -- the "data" must
be clearly defined. Otherwise we don't really know what the
subject of the conversation is. I have kind of negative outlook:
data is a matter to be organized in human communication into arts,
science and other activities. Correspondingly, those activities
can be de-constructed into row data. Actually, it all starts as
arts, science, inventions, etc. and only at certain level of
development the concept and matter of "data" emerges.</p>
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</p>
<p>One last note. If we turn to the subject of individuals (or
groups) responsible for discoveries and their actions as you
pretty accurately described them -- these all sum up into one
word: Freedom. And that easily projects back on the very matter in
discussion: Freedom of data collection, access and use -- this is
what we need. That is a principle which must be realized as such
and can be elaborated then in specific mechanisms, institutions,
initiatives, etc.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/19 19:44, Griffin, Elizabeth
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<p>I have been following these discussions with considerable
interest, and as a one-time active CODATA/RDA scientist I
recognize some of the arguments and (especially) the same gaps
and omissions that I used to feel, and still feel strongly,
really do need to be addressed.</p>
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</p>
<p>The movement of Open Data has a great deal to commend it, but
the concept - and what seems to be tacitly accepted by the
participants of this discussion - is that data are a routine
output of national or local programmes. That may certainly be
the case in a number of scientific and social-scientific fields,
but perhaps this is also a good moment to take a more wholistic
view of the matter. The history of scientific discovery and
development depended fully upon individuals with their own
resources, able to conduct the research that caught their
imagination. Structured science had not been invented
(fortunately); it was the "blue-skies" operators who showed ways
forward, and they could do so because they were able to function
unfettered. History relates over and over again many cases in
which it was the serendipitous sighting, the hunch, or the
perseverance which brought a new result to light. While few
researchers have the resources to operate in that mode nowadays,
progress in science still depends strongly upon the intuition,
the imagination and (often) the courage which individual
researchers bring to their sub-fields, and care needs to be
taken to offer those researchers both resources and respect for
what they accomplish. Mention of Open Data suggest strongly
that data should become public as soon as they are obtained,
leaving the originator of those data little reward for devoting
much career space to designing their capture.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Doubtless the above will be foreign to some - I found it was
foreign across the board in both CODATA and the RDA - but it is
an aspect which needs to be regarded alongside the other issues
raised here. One step is to ensure the inclusion of several
active researchers in the discussions and particularly in
formulating steps towards improvements. We also need to define
what exactly we mean by "data".</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Elizabeth Griffin<br>
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behalf of Kiringai Kamau <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kiringai.kamau@godan.info"><kiringai.kamau@godan.info></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> October 16, 2019 9:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex de Sherbinin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CODATA International<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CODATA-international] Digital Feudalism</font>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Alex for yours!
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Your discussion makes the reason to have a more focused
discourse among stakeholders which this platform provides
part of. It would make good sense to align this with some
of the data think Tanks and present the case for
in-depth analysis for a continental level discussion. We
are gearing for the ACFTA, which will drive intra-Africa
Trade. Investment in infrastructure is definitely critical
for this. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The GODAN Africa Agenda is to promote a concensus on an
Open data paradigm that anonymizes data for access, use
and reuse for innovation. Intra-country data needs to be
as raw as the users may seek to do. It makes sense for
each country to plan its own strategy on hosting, but
GODAN supports countries think through the internal
processes. Alone, however, we are not able to do it which
is why we are a network to work with those who share our
vision of making evidence available for decision making
using data openness.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The best locale for the kind of discussion we seem to
hold is at the AU or ECA, who could kick start the
discussions then regions and countries can take that
forward but from the perspective of breaking the big pan
African challenge into smaller achievable milestones. If
we do have any representatives of the AU, ECA, or any
institutional initiatives that believe in the goal of
GODAN, in this forum, kindly inbox me so that we can side
chat on the possibilities.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sincerely,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kiringai</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This discu</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at
5:21 PM Alex de Sherbinin <<a
href="mailto:adesherbinin@ciesin.columbia.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">adesherbinin@ciesin.columbia.edu</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Kiringai,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for your thoughtful response. I don't
think that the cloud makes in-country or regional
investments in the establishment of data
repositories redundant. A repository could use the
cloud for storage or backup and still require domain
expertise for the curation, documentation and
stewardship of data according to community
standards. Note that the CoreTrustSeal certification
requires repositories to identify their domain and
mission, which is considered critical for
understanding the needs of the user community. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>One of the issues I have with the current
approach to putting data in open repositories
(Dryad, Figshare, etc.) is that the data are often
not well documented (unless accompanied by a journal
article) or discoverable, e.g. through catalog
searches. Something else I've encountered in Africa
is a reluctance by national governments to entrust
their data to cloud services hosted in Europe or
North America. There may really be no threat to data
security or breaches at all, but there is a
perception that such a threat exists or that this is
a form of neo-colonialism (exportation of data).
Lastly, someone else raised the issue that the cloud
requires monthly fees. Unfortunately this may
represent an obstacle to donors, who can pay for
infrastructure but not necessarily monthly fees.
Perhaps those policies can be changed in recognition
of the new reality. Or perhaps a
continental/regional approach could mean that a
repository is supported by fees coming from multiple
member countries.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am not opposed to a continental/regional
approach to data repositories, but where do we
begin? With the AOSP? The African Union? And is it
just one big open repository serving all domains
from health to agriculture to climate or biological
sciences, or could we envision various domain
repositories being set up with core funding serving
continental or regional needs (say under the
umbrella of ECOWAS or CILSS in the West African
context)?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In any case - I wanted to make this point to the
group at large, in case others have thoughts. I
would like to follow up with you for some more
discussions on possible GODAN-WDS collaboration in
the region.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Alex</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 13, 2019
at 12:56 AM Kiringai Kamau <<a
href="mailto:kiringai.kamau@godan.info"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kiringai.kamau@godan.info</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Alex,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As you well mention, the Cloud makes
in-country investments redundant. and may to
some extent be unnecessary. As Africa moves to
centralize rather than decentralize within the
Continental Free Trade Area and the Malabo
Agendas, we may want to think of Africa's open
data space as the policy environment where
much of what emerges from your
workshop/conference will get better mileage
for realization.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>GODAN's Africa Agenda is to support a
melting pot of innovation using data. It is my
view that once data is openly available, the
temptation of taking it away to any place or
location after a project is done becomes
unnecessary. We make a deal of data theft
because someone having it has better mileage
in what they can propose to us...what if
everyone has access, can use and reuse the
data for innovation-based not on information
asymmetry but rather on their ingenuity?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If we could do this, then the pan African
institutions would focus on what brings
development rather than other parochial
interests...investment would be promoted and
development achieved.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I would be keen to discuss with your team
on the possibilities of moving to a more
centralized open data space that can inspire
innovation as we work together within the
GODAN Agenda. Unfortunately, we shall be
finishing the Africa Geospatial Data and
Internet Conference in Accra at the time yours
kicks off.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Inbox me for further discussion on how we
can work together.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kiringai,</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct
12, 2019 at 9:53 PM Alex de Sherbinin <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">adesherbinin@ciesin.columbia.edu</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">This conversation offers a good
opportunity to make everyone aware of a
conference coming up on 23-25 October in
Dakar: "Open Science in the South: Issues
and Perspectives for a New Dynamic" <a
href="https://opensciencesud.sciencesconf.org/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://opensciencesud.sciencesconf.org/</a>.
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</div>
<div>At this conference I am co-organizing
with a colleague from WDS (Arona Diedhou)
and partners from Agrhymet, Centre de
Suivi Ecologique and WASCAL a workshop on
developing West African research data
repositories. One of the arguments I plan
to make is that the absence of national /
regional repositories, along with policies
in countries requiring repatriation of
data (or at least maintenance of a copy in
country), there will continue be a lack of
"restitution" of research findings and
development project data in the region.
I'd be happy to know if others are making
such arguments, or if indeed in the age of
the cloud this seems too parochial.
Obviously this would require training and
funding. If anyone can point me to
initiatives that would support this
effort, that would be most welcome. I am
hoping to convince IRD, the lead
organizer, that investment in this area
would be a tangible output from the
conference.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Alex de Sherbinin </div>
<div>vice chair, WDS scientific committee</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat,
Oct 12, 2019 at 9:42 AM Kiringai Kamau
<<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kiringai.kamau@godan.info</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Kassim, Niek
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As you rightly say, most of the
projects are undertaken from a
top-down perspective, with limited
sharing of knowledge among all the
actors ... the beneficiaries rarely
get to see the definition of the
mission and the impatience to get
started by those coming with the
project funds creates no opportunity
for any preparedness among the
beneficiary partners. Where
knowledgeable persons exist, they
may only be hosted within
institutions. In many cases, such
institutions are not core/key actors
in the problem/project definition.
They are only invited, by a higher
privileged office/officer, when
everything has been defined and
pathways of implementation
determined at a political level they
cannot question. Economic or
political interests are the pathways
that those with interests use to
take advantage of a system they may
know presents the opportunity to
give them leeway to mine data for
their use and leave with it. The
projects therefore are not defined
with any other intention other than
the data sourcing for a song and
empty promises by those portending
to possess the knowledge that will
develop a beneficiary country. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Realizing this challenge, the
Global Open Data for Agriculture and
Nutrition convened with ministers of
the South-South an Open Data
Conference in Nairobi where a
Declaration was formulated. We are
currently supporting African
countries to evolve policies and
frameworks that can advise
compliance to national, regional and
global agendas and in the process
build local capacity key of which is
data governance. I am convinced that
we can sport feudal inclinations on
behalf of partner countries in
projects and therefore request
anyone formulating a project that
they feel should be bottom-up and
create local knowledge should link
up with GODAN through Suchith or
myself (in case your area of focus
is Africa).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks, Suchith for sharing the
Feudalism concerns.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kiringai Kamau</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:16 AM
Mwitondi, Kassim <<a
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<div>This is an instance of a biased
data ownership. A few years ago I
was working with a young African
researcher on an agro-forestry
research project. No sooner had we
started than I realused that her
centre had only some descriptive
statistics but no direct access to
the biomass data which she and her
colleagues had spent months
collecting from two islands! The
vast chunk of the data had left
with the development partners at
the end of the project. It turned
out, nobody at the centre had any
knowledge or pressing interest to
pursue the data and there was
already new initiatives to run
another project, which in my view
was almost a duplicate of the
first, but this time with a
different development partner.<br>
<br>
To cut the long story short, I
have come across several cases of
data ownership of this nature and
my view is that it doesn't help
much coining terminologies, as the
best that can be achieved is a
blame culture. Would I call that
data capitalism? Colonialism?
Feudalism? I never would! I have
learnt, over the years, that
proper problem identification is a
major stride in working out the
solution. Blaming it on one part
marginalizing the other when it
comes to data generation, access
and ownership is stripping
everyone on the project of a
fundamental responsibility in
managing the project.<br>
<br>
Apparently, the problem starts
with the project write-up. If the
project recipient is fully engaged
from project initiation to
delivery, they surely should know
how to access the data, as that is
a key project deliverable. My
personal experience is that there
are a several factors that lead to
this kind of situation. One, many
project ideas are top-down, that
is, they are not developed within
the working conditions of the
recipients. Two, there are often
many gaps in engagement, mainly
caused by near disparate motives
on many projects, with the
funders, experts and recipients
not necessarily having the same
perception, motives or knowledge.
Put the two together and add the
determined project timeline, you
have a near disaster. But the
tripartite interests to run
projects continues and we are
creating a vicious cycle. What is
the solution? It must start from
the recipients who must align each
incoming project with their
respective development strategies.
They must present themselves as
equal partners in defining the
project problem and tracking and
measuring its outcomes. They
should be able to quantifiable
identify what worked and what
didn't and any there should be
national institutions charged with
such responsibility. I could be
writing all night, I would rather
stop here for now.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
KSM<br>
<br>
Dr Kassim S. Mwitondi<br>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Dear
all,</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">This is
indeed a huge problem. I
also recently learned that
information data from NGOs
are best perhaps shared
with some ministries in
Bamako, Mali, but not
within a region where the
work is being done. This
implies that local
decision makers remain
dependant on the
information/data stream
back from the ministries
which may take some
months, if ever. This can
never be the purpose of
the work executed.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Since
most of the projects are
financed with public
funding for the benefit of
de people in the given
(development) country and
data/information belong in
fact to the real funds
provider of the work (i.e.
tax payers), claims of
intellectual property
rights that data belong to
the project executors seem
not applicable.
Consequently, data and
other information (e.g.
lessons learned) should be
shared at large to the
population and other
relevant stakeholders to
avoid duplication of
efforts.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">A
discussion worthwhile to
be continued.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span>Kind regards,</span></p>
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Boyko<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b>
vrijdag 11 oktober 2019
15:26<br>
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Suchith Anand <<a
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<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re:
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<p><span
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font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" lang="EN-GB">I have not
heard that term
before but I did run
into related term
this week at the
DDI-CODATA workshop
here in Dagstuhl.
The term is Data
Colonialism. This
often happens when a
foreign entity
(e.g., a development
agency/project).e
data are collected
in a developing
country and are
taken out of the
country. They will
leave behind some
summary tables but
will take the rich
data and metadata
away. This makes it
difficult to develop
the data analysis
and management
skills within the
country. </span></p>
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Friday, October 11,
2019, 08:51:29 AM
EDT, Suchith Anand
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<p><span
style="font-size:9pt;
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lang="EN-GB">I
came across a
recent op-ed
by Prof.
Mariana
Mazzucato on
“Digital
Feudalism” at</span><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)" lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p
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style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p style=""><a
href="https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/platform-economy-digital-feudalism-by-mariana-mazzucato-2019-10?utm_source=Project+Syndicate+Newsletter&utm_campaign=d192f2bc47-sunday_newsletter_6_10_2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_73bad5b7d8-d192f2bc47-105013549&mc_cid=d192f2bc47&mc_eid=a8cee90b20"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:9pt;
color:black"
lang="EN-GB">https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/platform-economy-digital-feudalism-by-mariana-mazzucato-2019-10?utm_source=Project+Syndicate+Newsletter&utm_campaign=d192f2bc47-sunday_newsletter_6_10_2019&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_73bad5b7d8-d192f2bc47-105013549&mc_cid=d192f2bc47&mc_eid=a8cee90b20</span></a><span
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<p
style="min-height:14px"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">Prof. Mazzucato is a
leading
researcher and
thinker on
Technology and
Innovation,
advisor to the
European
Commission on
research and
innovation
strategy, and
author of two
important
books on the
subject “The
Value of
Everything”
and
“The Entrepreneurial
State”. </span><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)" lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p
style="min-height:14px"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p style=""><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">The report on
“Mission-oriented
Research and
Innovation in
the European
Union” might
be of interest</span><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)" lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p style=""><a
href="https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/mazzucato_report_2018.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:9pt;
color:black"
lang="EN-GB">https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/mazzucato_report_2018.pdf</span></a><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(228,175,10)" lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p
style="min-height:14px"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p style=""><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">Since the use of cloud
platforms for
GIS data
analysis is
having a huge
impact on the
GIS community,
the subject is
of relevance.
</span><span
style="font-size:9pt;
color:black">I
would like
learn more on
this </span><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:rgb(69,69,69)"></span></p>
<ol start="1"
style="margin-top:0cm" type="1">
<li
style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">Are there any examples
of Digital
Feudalism in
GIS? </span><span
style="font-size:9pt" lang="EN-GB"></span></li>
<li
style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">How will Digital
Feudalism in
GIS affect our
future
generations?</span><span
style="font-size:9pt" lang="EN-GB"></span></li>
<li
style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">What policies are
governments,
regulators
doing to
reduce Digital
Feudalism in
GIS?</span><span
style="font-size:9pt" lang="EN-GB"></span></li>
<li
style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">What policies and
curriculum
are universities,
educators
adopting to
reduce Digital
Feudalism in
GIS?</span><span
style="font-size:9pt" lang="EN-GB"></span></li>
</ol>
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<p style=""><span
style="font-size:9pt; color:black" lang="EN-GB">Best wishes,</span><span
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<p style=""><span
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<a
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:windowtext">www.perfect.africa</span></a>,
<b><i>Tweeter</i></b>:
@kiringaik, <b><i>Skype</i></b>:
kiringai.kamau</span></p>
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CIESIN, The Earth Institute at Columbia
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P.O. Box 1000 (61 Route 9W), Palisades, NY
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Web: <a
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">845
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Quebec, Canada H3A 0G4</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
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Floor, Nyaku House, Argwings
Kodhek Road</span></p>
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+254 722 800 986/+254 733 375 505</span></p>
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style="letter-spacing:0.15pt">Email</span></b><span
style="letter-spacing:0.15pt">:
<b><a
href="mailto:kiringai.kamau@godan.info"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">kiringai.kamau@godan.info</a></b>
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or
<a
href="http://www.perfect.africa"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:windowtext">www.perfect.africa</span></a>,
<b><i>Tweeter</i></b>: @kiringaik,
<b><i>Skype</i></b>:
kiringai.kamau</span></p>
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