[CODATA-international] EXTERNAL: Re: CODATA Statement on the War in Ukraine
Andrew GOETZ
andy.gotz at esrf.fr
Fri Mar 4 09:04:02 EST 2022
Dear Jean-Claude + Ahmed,
as a white South African who grew up under apartheid I agree with Ahmed.
The cultural boycott was effective and made many white South Africans
think and react to the impact of apartheid. There were not enough of us
white South Africans who did thus but it definitely contributed to
isolate South Africa + South Africans and accelerate the end of apartheid.
I think sanctions against a country have a strong role to play while at
the same time we need to distinguish between individuals and their
government. We cannot say individuals=governments otherwise we would
have to change our opinions of people based on the change of
governments. Individuals (especially if they are many) can and do
influence governments which is why sanctions help.
Sincerely
Andy Gotz
On 04/03/2022 13:28, Ahmed Bawa wrote:
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> Dear Jean-Claude
>
> I must disagree!!
>
> The impact of the boycott against apartheid was due primarily to the
> fact that it had wide reach – not just at the cruel leaders but at
> thousands of passive academics who may not openly supported the system
> but who thrived on its benefits for white South African at the cost of
> devastation of the majority of South Africans.
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> Sincerely
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> *Jean-Claude BURGELMAN
> *Sent:* Friday, 04 March 2022 12:44
> *To:* BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>
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> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [CODATA-international] CODATA Statement on
> the War in Ukraine
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> No
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> Lets not make the mistake we did when fighting apartheid. We need to
> isolate the leaders. Not the rest. We need to give the scientist of
> russia a message that we want this to stop and that we reckon on them.
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> Best regards
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> JcB
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> Op 4 mrt. 2022 om 11:05 heeft BOULTON Geoffrey
> <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk> het volgende geschreven:
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> Colleagues
>
> Kostiantyn makes a request of us, that CODATA should suspend
> Russian membership. We have offered our Ukrainian colleagues our
> sympathy, now Kostiantyn requests use to act. We owe him a reply,
> is it yes, or no?
>
> Geoffrey
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> On 4 Mar 2022, at 02:05, Kostiantyn Yefremov
> <k.yefremov at wdc.org.ua> wrote:
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> Dear friends!
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> Let me, on behalf of the World Data Center for Geoinformatics
> and Sustainable Development team and the Ukrainian scientific
> community, express gratitude for the words of support
> expressed in the CODATA Statement on the War in Ukraine and
> your personal messages and letters. It is very important for
> each of us to feel the support of friends and colleagues in
> this difficult time!
>
> I'm afraid that you do not quite accurately imagine the scale
> of what is happening in Ukraine. Russia is waging a full-scale
> war on the Ukrainian territory. The Russian army has invaded
> along the entire length of the border between Ukraine and
> Russia, and is also attacking from the territory of the
> Republic of Belarus (the total length of the border is about
> 3,000 km).
>
> The Russian army uses aviation, rocket artillery, vacuum and
> cluster bombs. The Russian army cannot achieve superiority
> over the Ukrainian military and launches rocket and bomb
> attacks on civilian targets, killing and injuring civilians.
> Entire residential areas of a number of large Ukrainian cities
> were destroyed, including Kharkov, Sumy, Chernihiv. Constantly
> carried out rocket attacks on the capital of Ukraine, the city
> of Kyiv. Many small towns were affected. Tonight, as I am
> writing this letter, Russian troops are shelling the
> Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant, Europe's largest nuclear
> power plant, from tanks, and a fire has already started on the
> territory of the plant.
>
>
> The tragedy of this war has already affected every family in
> Ukraine. Putin declared denazification as one of the goals of
> the war, which implies the destruction of Ukrainian culture,
> traditions and their bearers - i.e. genocide.
>
> Reliable information about the course of military operations
> and the basic needs of the defenders of Ukraine is published
> quite quickly on the websitehttps://war.ukraine.ua/and
> twitterhttps://twitter.com/StratcomCentre.
>
> We are very grateful to the international community for their
> help. Thanks to the international support of partners from all
> over the world, the armed forces of Ukraine are now holding
> back the onslaught of one of the strongest armies in the
> world. We understand that Putin will not stop to the conquest
> of Ukraine. In future plans - to unite under the auspices of
> Russia all the countries of the Warsaw Pact, which threatens
> to destroy the fragile balance of global security.
>
> Therefore, it is now extremely important for all progressive
> forces to unite and repulse the aggressor in all possible
> directions. Tough times call for tough decisions. We encourage
> the international scientific community to express their
> support for Ukraine not only in words but also in deeds. In
> addition to the sanctions imposed by your countries, we ask
> you to initiate the termination of all forms of cooperation
> with Russian scientific organizations (including the
> consideration of applications for new projects, the
> termination of funding for existing projects, the temporary
> exclusion/restriction of participation in the international
> scientific councils and unions, and etc.).
>
> We also urge you to temporarily suspend Russia's membership in
> CODATA.
>
> We have many great colleagues in Russia, we know them
> personally, we know that many of them do not support the
> government's actions to attack Ukraine. But now we are not
> talking about individuals. The proposed restrictions should
> concern institutions. It so happened that Russian scientific
> and educational institutions are one of the pillars of the
> current regime in Russia. Therefore, it is extremely important
> to send a strong signal to such organizations through the
> introduction of restrictions.
>
> With hope for the victory of Ukraine and all progressive forces,
>
> Kostiantyn
>
> --
>
> Kostiantyn V. Yefremov
>
> , PhD
>
> Director, World Data Center for Geoinformatics and Sustainable
> Development
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> National Technical University of Ukraine “Igor Sikorsky Kyiv
> Polytechnic Institute”
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> ср, 2 мар. 2022 г. в 17:24, Asha CODATA <asha at codata.org>:
>
> Image removed by sender.CODATA joins with our parent body,
> the International Science Council
> <https://council.science/current/news/isc-statement-ukraine/> (ISC),
> with other partners, including ISC members
> <https://council.science/statements-international-scientific-community-conflict-ukraine/>,
> in stating its deep dismay and concerns about the military
> operations being carried out in Ukraine and the resulting
> humanitarian crisis.
>
> As the Committee on Data of the ISC, we call for the
> respect for international humanitarian law, and the
> preservation of scientific institutions and their valuable
> data resources. Most of all, we demand that the safety and
> well-being of our fellow scientists, data experts and
> colleagues be maintained.
>
> Ukraine and Russia are both members of CODATA, and we work
> closely with many dear colleagues and friends at
> scientific and data institutes in both countries. Kyiv,
> now under attack, hosted the 2008 CODATA Conference and is
> the location of our partner organisations, the World Data
> Centre for Geoinformatics and Sustainable Development
> <http://wdc.org.ua/>, the Igor Sikorsky Kyiv Polytechnic
> Institute <https://kpi.ua/en> and the National Academy of
> Sciences of Ukraine
> <https://www.nas.gov.ua/EN/pages/default.aspx>. Many
> colleagues from these institutes, colleagues who have
> attended CODATA conferences and workshops, and young
> scientist alumni of our training activities, remain in
> Kyiv and are in danger. These women and men are our
> scientific colleagues, our partners in advancing the
> science of data and our friends in global collaborative
> work to use data better. Their freedom to pursue their
> scientific and human activities and their safety is
> paramount.
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> CODATA’s mission
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