[CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory

Jonathan Petters jpetters at vt.edu
Mon Jan 10 08:19:15 EST 2022


For me the use of the terms 'Open science' or 'Open research' (or 'Open
scholarship') depends on the audience and how inclusive we're trying to be.

The term 'Open science' is reasonably meaningful for STEM fields, but isn't
really inclusive of the many arts and humanities folks at academic
institutions that may be interested in open practices. 'Open
research'/'Open scholarship' is a more inclusive term I think.

-Jon
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On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 6:51 AM Haslinger Florian <
florian.haslinger at sed.ethz.ch> wrote:

> That Unesco report mentions ‘open research’ only as ‘open reseach data’
> -  which seems to be different than the understanding of ‘open research’ vs
> ‘open science’.
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> (and very pragmatically – in that context I care less about the definition
> of ‘science’ than about the definition / implication of ‘open’ …)
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> *From:* Berkman, Paul Arthur <pberkman at law.harvard.edu>
> *Sent:* Montag, 10. Januar 2022 12:36
> *To:* Haslinger Florian <florian.haslinger at sed.ethz.ch>; BOULTON Geoffrey
> <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* CODATA International <codata-international at lists.codata.org>; Paul
> BERKMAN <Paul.BERKMAN at unitar.org>; Berkman, Paul Arthur <
> pberkman at law.harvard.edu>
> *Subject:* RE: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth
> System Observatory
> *Importance:* High
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> With respect for the various perspectives, this discussion seems to forget
> the significant efforts of the international scientific community (natural
> sciences, social sciences and Indigenous knowledge) that contributed to the *UNESCO
> Recommendation on Open Science
> <https://www.unesco.org/en/natural-sciences/open-science>*.
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> *Prof. Paul Arthur Berkman*
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> *From:* CODATA-international <
> codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org> *On Behalf Of *Haslinger
> Florian
> *Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2022 12:24 PM
> *To:* BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* CODATA International <codata-international at lists.codata.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth
> System Observatory
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> In the context of the ‘open’ discussion, wouldn’t the important issue be
> to figure out the ‘practical differences’ between open research and open
> science (if there are any)?
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> There is a EU project resource that has ‘open reproducible research’ as
> one part of open science (and I wonder about the implications of
> ‘reproducible’ in this context):
> https://www.fosteropenscience.eu/FOSTER-taxonomy/open-science-definition
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.fosteropenscience.eu_FOSTER-2Dtaxonomy_open-2Dscience-2Ddefinition&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=pcc3NBoK2PpY5cPD7bgUloZiCoNNliKqBFicu5REGJM&e=>
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> I have the feeling that one could argue that ‘open research’ enforces the
> openness of data, methods, … more than ‘open science’ that would ‘just’ ask
> for the openness of the research results. To me that would be misleading, I
> would favor the interpretation that open science requires open research as
> one of its ingredients.
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> But perhaps the discussion comes really from the interpretation /
> understanding that ‘science’ is not necessarily including humanities and
> social sciences (and arts in the English language context…)? (that seems to
> be the gist of this Wikipedia article
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_science
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Open-5Fscience&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=LRwdkqi2kjt54-tgg9BJgg0kq77jArlzUmYTJl3l3Nk&e=>
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> If that’s the case, shouldn’t we better ensure that the meaning /
> definition of science becomes (again) inclusive, and keep the distinction
> of ‘research’ as a process contributing to science, thus have ‘open
> research’ as an element of ‘open science’?
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> Florian
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> *From:* BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>
> *Sent:* Montag, 10. Januar 2022 12:05
> *To:* BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* Haslinger Florian <florian.haslinger at sed.ethz.ch>; CODATA
> International <codata-international at lists.codata.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth
> System Observatory
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> Maybe the ISC position paper on "Science as a Global Public Good”
> (attached) might help. “Research as a Global Public Good” would not work.
> Why, because research is an activity, science is an outcome.
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> Geoffrey
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> Geoffrey Boulton OBE FRS FRSE
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> Regius Professor of Geology Emeritus
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> On 10 Jan 2022, at 10:22, BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
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> Just to break in, research and science are not synonymous. Science is s
> process that requires openness to scrutiny, but I can carryout research for
> my own purposes that is never made accessible for scrutiny. You can argue
> that “open research = science”, but I think that leads to severe semantic
> difficulties.
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> It's true that the word science in English, if used alone, tends to be
> used to refer primarily to natural science. Increasingly people use the
> word more broadly, in the sense of the German Wissenschaft.
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> Geoffrey
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> Geoffrey Boulton OBE FRS FRSE
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> Regius Professor of Geology Emeritus
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> University of Edinburgh
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> Grant Institute, Kings Buildings
> Edinburgh EH9 3JW
> Mob: 44 (0)7590978510
> Website: www.geos.ed.ac.uk/homes/gboulton
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> On 10 Jan 2022, at 08:50, Haslinger Florian <florian.haslinger at sed.ethz.ch>
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> Hi Daureen,
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> Thanks  for the links!
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> Quick question – why would you prefer the use of ‘open research’ rather
> than ‘open science’?
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> From all I could find, they should be ‘interchangeable’ (i.e. synonymous
> (really?)) ?
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> (I find the lack of clarity  / authoritative definitions of the terms used
> in these discussions very frustrating – it allows too many easy escapes for
> my taste – so anything towards more strict definitions would be most
> appreciated.)
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> Thanks for any comments!
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> Kind regards,
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> Florian
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> *From:* CODATA-international <
> codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org> *On Behalf Of *Daureen
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> *Sent:* Freitag, 7. Januar 2022 19:29
> *To:* Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>; CODATA
> International <codata-international at lists.codata.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth
> System Observatory
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> That is not all NASA is doing.
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> They are organizing the 2023 Year of Open Science
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> https://github.com/nasa/Transform-to-Open-Science
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> https://science.nasa.gov/open-science/transform-to-open-science
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> https://sparcopen.org/news/2022/nasa-year-of-open-science-set-to-launch-in-2023/
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> Just wish they would say open research instead of open science
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> *From:* CODATA-international <
> codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org> *On Behalf Of *Suchith
> Anand
> *Sent:* Friday, January 7, 2022 8:19 AM
> *To:* CODATA International <codata-international at lists.codata.org>
> *Subject:* [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth
> System Observatory
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> Dear Colleagues,
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> This NASA study and workshops might be of interest. This is an opportunity
> to shape the next generation of Earth Observing missions that are currently
> in development.
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> Details at
> https://earthdata.nasa.gov/esds/open-science/oss-for-eso-workshops
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> I would like to thank NASA colleagues for their contributions for open
> geospatial science.
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> Best wishes
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