[CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory

Berkman, Paul Arthur pberkman at law.harvard.edu
Mon Jan 10 06:36:27 EST 2022


With respect for the various perspectives, this discussion seems to forget the significant efforts of the international scientific community (natural sciences, social sciences and Indigenous knowledge) that contributed to the UNESCO Recommendation on Open Science<https://www.unesco.org/en/natural-sciences/open-science>.


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From: CODATA-international <codata-international-bounces at lists.codata.org> On Behalf Of Haslinger Florian
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Subject: Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory

In the context of the 'open' discussion, wouldn't the important issue be to figure out the 'practical differences' between open research and open science (if there are any)?

There is a EU project resource that has 'open reproducible research' as one part of open science (and I wonder about the implications of 'reproducible' in this context): https://www.fosteropenscience.eu/FOSTER-taxonomy/open-science-definition<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.fosteropenscience.eu_FOSTER-2Dtaxonomy_open-2Dscience-2Ddefinition&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=pcc3NBoK2PpY5cPD7bgUloZiCoNNliKqBFicu5REGJM&e=>

I have the feeling that one could argue that 'open research' enforces the openness of data, methods, ... more than 'open science' that would 'just' ask for the openness of the research results. To me that would be misleading, I would favor the interpretation that open science requires open research as one of its ingredients.

But perhaps the discussion comes really from the interpretation / understanding that 'science' is not necessarily including humanities and social sciences (and arts in the English language context...)? (that seems to be the gist of this Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_science<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Open-5Fscience&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=LRwdkqi2kjt54-tgg9BJgg0kq77jArlzUmYTJl3l3Nk&e=> )

If that's the case, shouldn't we better ensure that the meaning / definition of science becomes (again) inclusive, and keep the distinction of 'research' as a process contributing to science, thus have 'open research' as an element of 'open science'?

Florian

From: BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk<mailto:Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>>
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Subject: Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory

Maybe the ISC position paper on "Science as a Global Public Good" (attached) might help. "Research as a Global Public Good" would not work. Why, because research is an activity, science is an outcome.

Geoffrey



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On 10 Jan 2022, at 10:22, BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk<mailto:Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:

Just to break in, research and science are not synonymous. Science is s process that requires openness to scrutiny, but I can carryout research for my own purposes that is never made accessible for scrutiny. You can argue that "open research = science", but I think that leads to severe semantic difficulties.

It's true that the word science in English, if used alone, tends to be used to refer primarily to natural science. Increasingly people use the word more broadly, in the sense of the German Wissenschaft.

Geoffrey



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On 10 Jan 2022, at 08:50, Haslinger Florian <florian.haslinger at sed.ethz.ch<mailto:florian.haslinger at sed.ethz.ch>> wrote:

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Hi Daureen,

Thanks  for the links!

Quick question - why would you prefer the use of 'open research' rather than 'open science'?
>From all I could find, they should be 'interchangeable' (i.e. synonymous (really?)) ?

(I find the lack of clarity  / authoritative definitions of the terms used in these discussions very frustrating - it allows too many easy escapes for my taste - so anything towards more strict definitions would be most appreciated.)

Thanks for any comments!

Kind regards,
Florian


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Subject: Re: [CODATA-international] Open Source Science for the Earth System Observatory

That is not all NASA is doing.
They are organizing the 2023 Year of Open Science
https://github.com/nasa/Transform-to-Open-Science<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_nasa_Transform-2Dto-2DOpen-2DScience&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=ZCYUpnAUZRBHK-sIksaggT3JNV76DSkqrTzkwehsES8&e=>
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Just wish they would say open research instead of open science

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Dear Colleagues,

This NASA study and workshops might be of interest. This is an opportunity to shape the next generation of Earth Observing missions that are currently in development.

Details at https://earthdata.nasa.gov/esds/open-science/oss-for-eso-workshops<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__earthdata.nasa.gov_esds_open-2Dscience_oss-2Dfor-2Deso-2Dworkshops&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=kpLJS7LfkSf7gLodQQ9R2F9kXFw1PnnUtyinpCqBF3w&m=6ypYgET9PrblW2x12oUfoKqcNyGn9FxDNgho1b3BJBSyx-69gL3WGBP0L-wG_cyf&s=muflkJNR0YIWu9FdGmHKu7XOXRmZPfjrCPxIu8T37O8&e=>

I would like to thank NASA colleagues for their contributions for open geospatial science.

Best wishes

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