[CODATA-international] Crowdsourcing a collection of papers with Sustainable Development Goals

Fraser Taylor FraserTaylor at Cunet.Carleton.Ca
Thu Aug 27 16:00:51 EDT 2020


I strongly support Simon’s views.
An additional issue and growing problem is the emergence of a growing number of open source journals which charge authors fees for publishing their work. Many of these are legitimate and good quality journals with adequate peer adjudicated review and publication procedures. There are ,unfortunately, too many others who are in the business of making money from the authors who wish their work to be published and whose procedures are suspect to say the least.
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Subject: Re: [CODATA-international] Crowdsourcing a collection of papers with Sustainable Development Goals

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Dear Simon, Wendy, Peter, Jean-Claude, Mercè, and others,



I also support your position of light-touch:



Selective editing of topical material is a dangerous path: too many people in the world wish to use the power of digital media to silence the opposing views to their own. History tells us what happens after the books are burned.



I support your premise that an international list open to all needs to be managed in a manner that leaves the burden of discernment to the reader. People who choose to rely on filtered information and censorship are incurably lazy thinkers, no need to promote that.



I am also a huge supporter of a non-profit science economy that requires priority investment by nation-states and visionary foundations in order to sustain inquiry and healthy progress. Such research must not be fettered by requirements of policy and political outcomes in order to maintain funding.



The science/research Industry (spurred by politics and private interests) has harmed our fields and our credibility, where people attracted to the currencies of money and politics are able to dominate discussion. To borrow the “Pace Layering” concept from Stewart Brand of the Long Now Foundation: research fashion changes like the weather, and yet we are generally studying processes that fundamentally have much slower paces.



I, for one, think that we collectively need to tighten our critical thinking caps and train our students to discern good and bad science from the methods, results, and reporting. This includes being aware of what censorship looks like in an open science-facing forum, as well as recognizing the inevitable thrusts of single-issue political and corporate interests into the science process.



Thank you for taking a position relative to the alarming global trend of de-platforming and information control.



This is all my own opinion of course, as both a mountain systems scientist and a technocrat.



Scotty





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Subject: Re: [CODATA-international] Crowdsourcing a collection of papers with Sustainable Development Goals



I also support Simon's and Peter Baumann's views.



Best,

Mercè



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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:47 PM Jean-Claude BURGELMAN <Jean-Claude.Burgelman at vub.be<mailto:Jean-Claude.Burgelman at vub.be>> wrote:

I fully support your view

Best regards

JcB



Op 24 aug. 2020 om 19:01 heeft Simon Hodson, ED CODATA <simon at codata.org<mailto:simon at codata.org>> het volgende geschreven:

 Dear Geoffrey, all;



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The appearance of Anita’s post on the CODATA International list elicited a number of expressions of concern, in the light of which we reminded subscribers to the list that it is open to third party posts and the appearance of a given third party post does not imply the endorsement of CODATA (message reproduced below).



I would be reluctant to apply a ‘no platform’ policy and do not think that the analogy holds between a discussion list for data issues (albeit with 3000 subscribers) and the ‘GAFA' social media platforms in the way that Geoffrey suggests.  I would prefer to let subscribers decide whether the initiative advertised is ‘green-washing’ or ’SDG-washing’ or is something of interest.  In this instance, ’no-platforming’ such posts feels to me too much like blocking information to an informed community.



I would be interested to hear views from other subscribers on this matter in general and specifically whether you would prefer that the CODATA Secretariat should filter more actively posts that are sent to the CODATA International list by third party organisations?



With very best wishes,



Simon.

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On 22 Aug 2020, at 11:05, BOULTON Geoffrey <Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk<mailto:Geoff.Boulton at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:



We, as members of the international science community, should be wary of supporting an initiative led by a company that has effectively privatised the results of much publicly-funded science and inhabited access to it by scientists and citizens. That this should happen in things as profoundly important as the SDGs is doubly worrying. CODATA should think carefully before acting as the technology companies do, by providing a platform for material for which they claim no responsibility.



Imagine how the novel capabilities offered by the digital revolution could have been harnessed to disseminate science more efficiently and effectively to the global good, rather than to the benefit of the commercial publishers private investors. A priority for science is to rescue this potential and to embed it in the hands of scientists.



 Geoffrey Boulton

Past-President of CODATA



On 21 Aug 2020, at 10:46, Simon Hodson, ED CODATA <simon at codata.org<mailto:simon at codata.org>> wrote:



To subscribers to the CODATA International list, greetings;

The message below from Anita Dewaard has caused a number of people to write to me to express concerns and request clarification about the relationship of CODATA to the initiative described.

I would like to take this opportunity, therefore, to clarify the nature of the CODATA International list and remind readers that the appearance of a third party post on this list does not necessary imply endorsement by CODATA.

The CODATA International list has over 3000 subscribers from around the world.  It serves three functions:

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The message from Anita is an instance of function 2.

The CODATA International list is moderated.  However, that simply means that someone from the CODATA Secretariat (generally Asha or myself) checks the post to filter out spam before allowing it through the system.  This is a light touch process that we use to eliminate obvious spam and some bad practice (e.g. kind but unnecessarily repeated messages to thank the original poster, misdirected requests to be removed from the list, and some obviously irrelevant posts…).  We do not filter more heavily than that and I would not be in favour of blocking posts from certain organisations whatever their reputation among some of our community.

We encourage discussion and the sharing of views on this list.  We encourage organisations and projects other than CODATA to use the list to reach this community and to publicise their activities where relevant and of interest.  It is important to reiterate, however, that the appearance of the third party post on this list does not necessary imply endorsement by CODATA.

With very best wishes,

Simon.

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On 19 Aug 2020, at 18:36, Dewaard, Anita (ELS-HBE) <A.dewaard at elsevier.com<mailto:A.dewaard at elsevier.com>> wrote:



Five years ago, the UN General Assembly set forth 17 sustainable development goals (SDGs) designed to pave the path to a more sustainable future. The goals are measured against various targets and indicators to be achieved by 2030. To make the best decision on which research to fund, program evaluators must have a clear view of the landscape of research supporting the SDGs. This understanding can reveal gaps requiring additional funding and support.



To identify the relevant research for each SDG, the RELX Corporate Responsibility program and several Elsevier Data Scientists have developed a crowdsourcing platform to facilitate matching research publications to the relevant SDGs. The purpose of this work is to create an open knowledge base to help identify which research supports which SDG. The aggregated crowdsourced set of article identifiers matched to SDG’s will be made available through Elsevier’s ICSR Lab, to support the scholarly community.



We hereby invite all community members to support this effort, by doing the following:

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  2.  Select a paper from the list, or upload a paper you think is related to one of the SDG’s
  3.  Choose the SDG indicators related to the paper.

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For more information on the RELX SDG efforts, please contact Bamini Jayabalasingham, b.jayabalasingham at elsevier.com<mailto:b.jayabalasingham at elsevier.com>



With kind regards,

Anita



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